Sisters in Struggle or Sisters in Silence
Where is the love for Ieshuh Griffin from our black sisters in the government and in the community?
I was reminded of when Hillary Clinton ran for President recently. She mentioned in her exit speech that she had broken the glass ceiling that for too long has kept women from reaching higher heights, especially in politics. She was very right about that. Only Hillary and few others have the mental and physical fortitude to play with the big boys and come out with her head held high, pant suit intact, and respect gained for the women’s movement.
Now fast-forward to January 2011, Milwaukee Wisconsin, the Milwaukee County Executive’s Race and one stands alone. Bad enough it is only one female, but this sister really is standing alone except for those from within the community who have come to respect her and her message.
Suggested endorsements could come from Sen. Lena Taylor, Sen. Tamara Grigsby, Rep. Gwen Moore, County Board member Nikaya Harris, self-proclaimed community advocate Jerri Hamilton, Rep. Barbra Toles, and Rep. Elizabeth Coggs. Well Coggs gets a pass right? NO- in order for us to get ahead we have to get over our hurt feelings and shake hands and support.
I know Ms. Griffin does not seek these ladies support. She gets by on her brilliance and truth just fine! However, there is a larger message here, one being sent to all women who dare change the face of injustices and politics in Wisconsin no matter their ideology, or those who wish to be leaders in their respective fields. When do women, especially women of color, start getting away from politics and hate and start opening doors for the rest of us?
Shouldn’t they be held to a certain level of accountability from the communities they come from and represent? And if they don’t support other black women what repercussions does this have in our community? When do we start letting our black elected know they are hurting us and not helping us? Regardless if you support Ieshuh, there are other women out here seeking leadership positions, political offices, and judgeships, we need to support our sisters. Hell this isn’t the Housewives of Milwaukee or Bucks Wives, where it is okay to tear down weaves and run in little high-school-like cliques. This is a time where Milwaukee is OPEN FOR BUSINESS!! A new day and that means it is time for our sisters to give up a little piece of their power and share it with the rest of us. Break the glass ceiling!
Sure some can say some of these women are not deserving of public office as it stands, and those people would be right. Some of them have used namesake, privilege, connections, and political muscle as their mainstays. For too long, we have sat by and allowed it. Again Black apathy rears its ugly head. However we do have little black girls, “queens in training” and if they are to become the women of tomorrow, it is past time some of our black female leaders start acting like leaders and not like gate keepers. And yes whether it is fair or not, you are more than just a political figure, you are representing and owing to us! To whom much is given, much will be required! A personal appearance at a school for Black History Month or MLK Day to say some tired old speech is not enough anymore. Show by actions and deeds that you are more than a color. You are queens, we are united, there is a sisterhood, a positive one, and that you are mentors for our girls to aspire to be.
As Ieshuh Griffin and others like her begin to find their place in this community, wouldn’t it be nice if this closed little sorority open its doors and let us all in and extend a hand of support and sisterhood.
That’s just my two-cents and I may be wrong, but I think for my baby girl and all the little princesses, I for one would like to see us woman come together over something positive and not over some racial injustice. Just for once it would be nice to see some love coming from our current leaders to our up and coming leaders in training.
Peace Family,
WW
Dynamite. I may not be a ‘Black’ girl, but she has earned my respect. I’m sorry but the women you mention such as Lena Taylor, c’mon, these women are not the Black women who are the Black women of yesterday. I may not agree with her slogan not the white man’s bitch, but I respect it, and respect her for standing firm. Believe it or not, I am voting for her as the next county exec.
You may not be a black girl but you are still part of the sisterhood, so we are all one. Our struggles may be different and some are the same, but still we must stand together. Just my theory.
Thanks,
WW
Well Wonder Woman as I read your words they really made me think. I think it one thing when one has stepped up and supported while others have not, but it is another thing to be a supporter who has been used and discarded like a dishrag. I am one who does not ever think the political women in this city will reach out, they have their clique and if you don’t fit in it…… But when regular sisters do it (I am getting personal here) and after they are USED, they are literally kicked to the curb. I am not running behind anyone to lend my support, been there done that. I think that I have demonstrated that I have supported Ieshuh Griffin. And I can name many others whose names are recognizable. After lending my energy to her sister’s issue and not being a consituent of the various offices she has selected to run for with the governor’s being an exception, I feel as though I am no longer of USE to Ms. Griffin. My email and phone number has not changed. So I let it go. OH WELL. So I take offense to the fact that simply because some of us don’t have a big NAME in this community that Black women in this communty don’t want to or have not supported her, I can certainly attest to the FACT that I have and I certainly don’t remember seing YOU sitting up in court with her. and her family , not ONE day I was there. It’s as thought what we have done doesn’t even count. I apologize if I have offended but I just had to say it. I could say sooo much more, but I am done…..unless :-}
.I hope that Ms. Griffin will read this statement from you and see what I see; you’ve been an enemy within her camp. Grow UP! ” I feel I am no longer of USE to Ms. Griffin”, sounds selfish and egotistical, saying she knows your number and e-mail, that would mean you know her number and e-mail as well, are you concerned with the fact this woman has been carrying heavy loads virtually alone? In my humble opinion, I think Ms. Griffin should continue to stay as far away from you as possible. To the moderator, this is the reason Ms. Griffin is without the voice of many so called Black women, competition driven women in Milwaukee. However, I am quite sure Ms. Griffin has the support of White women, such as my wife, and other mature White women in Milwaukee County. I doubt that she has problem finding true dedicated supporters.
To be honest, I DON’T have any of Ms. Griffin’s numbers anymore, as they have changed regularly and as I stated if she needed support she definitely has mine as it has not changed at all. When I need help or support, I don’t expect people to run to me, I reach out to them, especially those who have been there for me. My pride or ego definitely doesn’t get in the way of that. And my EGO has nothing to do with this. I certainly have not been an enemy and my work on her behalf will attest to that as well as everyone else who has helped her including people who came from OUT OF THE STATE here to Milwaukee to help her. I don’t recall seeing you there either. I can SHOW AND PROVE IT, rather than get on this page and make accusations of someone being an enemy. I suggest you PROVE that statement cause she certainly can’t. I am simply stating FACTS and there are other Black women who have assisted her as well, so to say that there are no Black women helping her is disingenious. This definitely was not an ego driven statement, it was simply the truth from my perspective, based on what WW doesn’t know about whose assisted and who has not. Now since you have brought your white wife into this, it’s on!!
I can not believe that you idiots are falling for this clown Ieshuh Griffin. This clown lies every chance she gets! Anyone that knows this fool will tell you. Everybody screaming revolution is not about revolution. This fool could be someone relevant if she stops trying to use everyone that she meets. I say to all those who are sucking her toes and licking her graces.
Go offer IESHUH your help and see if this fool does not try and burn you. Ieshuh uses people. I agree with sister Ifama but unlike Ifama, I will not backtread on my statements. This con artist is about as crazy as a damn retarded goat. Now go listen to the archives of her blogtalk radio show, called angry black woman and see if she loves BLACK PEOPLE..She is particularly BITTER towards ALL Black Men..She declares THAT BLK MEN are’nt SHIT but she LOVES BLK PEOPLE. As a man I say NEGRO PLEASE!!! AS A BLK PERSON..I SAY NEGRO PLEASE!!!
Well , is she willing to let a real White guy show her how a woman should be treated? You sound as bitter as your queen there buddy. Why don’t you and your royalness say these things to her face? She’s been at debates, I saw the video on here, she definitely can speak. We therefore can conclude she can speak for herself. Only thing I’ve been able to gather between your hiness rants and of course, your bitching, is she has zero tolerance for losers. I’ll even go as far as guessing you two couldn’t use her the way you guys intended now your pissing in a pot of pork rhinos, while hot under your Oxford knock off.
L-O-S-E-R! I’ll drink to that.
First off Ms. Griffin has been invited to this article and I do know she is very busy so if she can she will shed some light.
Secondly the purpose of the article is to hear people out and be informed so if you call that bitching so be it.
Thridly the point of the story we seem to loose track on is the silence from our black elected and community leaders who can show the way and help break barriers they once facced. Condeming and all this negativity serves no purpose but to keep us divided. This was not my intention so I hope we can get back to the article and address the larger issues we face that are systemic and counterproductve. I hope Ms. Griffin will get some time to respond and be heard. Yes she is eloquent and can speak for herself. My intention which has never waivered in my support of Ieshuh is that she be welcome to the table and respected as a young person trying to make positive changes. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. We must learn to have healthy debate not more infighting leading us away from the forward progress Ieshuh and others are making.
Not you ma’am, my comments were towards the puppy of the queen, the guy with the Real as Real screen name. Hey, I don’t disrespect Black women, I love them. I’m pretty fly for a White guy. I love what you’ve written lady. My first time on this site was viewing this much talked about debate video posted on this site, actually watched it a few times. Came back to watch a little more, here I see this particular discussion, & comments of twiddle dee & her homey. They seem like losers. I just wanted to comment, not disrespect your discussion WW. Nope, it was not directed to you. Real men apologize. I’m sorry you took offensive. My comments were pointed to daffy and her duck. This queen and her buffoon. WW, have a drink with me?
Thank you for letting me know. I do get confused. Always feel free to comment whether you agree or not. I learn by feedback and by learning new things and I don’t bite! :)
No need to apologize I understand where you’re coming from and thanks for tuning in!
WW always loves a spot of tea or coffee these days, have to take you up on that!
Peace,
WW
Well lets first take a look at this ____ screen name..COLT 45..Now does anyone see what I see. This _______ is on this SITE with a CHEAP MALT LIQUOR ,that was targeted to destroy BLACK PEOPLE and that is commonly used , along with OLD ENGLISH ,to DEMEAN Blk people!
Now let us look into this ______ claims. You start your rant of stupidity by saying is IESHUH GRIFFIN ready to let A REAL white man show her how a woman should be treated. Now if you examine this STALKING FREAKS words , you will see that he is merely intersted in IESHUH from a SEXUAL standpoint. Notice how this FREAK refers to watching her on video!
Someone had better warn IESHUH that this FREAK is watching her. This TED BUNDY sounding rapist is so delusional that he is talking about a BLACK MAN wearing OXFORDS and pissing in a pot of PORK RHINOS? Only a SICK FREAK could conjure that mess up!!!! Now crawl your behind back into your mothers bed and leave the reply buttons alone…FREAK!
@ Reply to this so called Real feller. I’m not pulling pistols out on my fellow brothers; I’m not disrespecting women in my race. I drink on occasions. I’m not smoking ‘chronic’ or serving to make a living; I’m working 9 to 5 buddy. I simply admired a young woman with beauty and brains in a video posted on here. I would have had the same admiration had she been White. “REAL’, it was in response to your high animosity towards this young woman, that I questioned if she’d like to simply explore better options. Have you notice the flock of African American women to men of my race? I’d say it’s a sign they are simply fed up with the disrespect and begirding of the many men like you. The more African American women I see with men of my stature, the more comfortable I feel in my approach to these wonderful life forms. Like Ms. Beyance say, ‘If you liked it then you should of put a ring on it, don’t be mad because ‘we’ want it. I’m sure glad this is only on-line, I’m sure if we were face to face I’d be a victim of the violence within you. I’m not upset at your prejudice outburst; it’s who you are obviously. WW, please forgive me if I seem to have offended you or any African American women on here. I’m not here to do that. I truly admire African American women, and unlike ‘REAL’, I have not ever disrespected any. On another note, go Packers! Going to sit back now enjoy the game, pop open a nice ice cold Colt 45.
Lets take a even closer look at this freak colt 45…He says that all BLACK MEN are shooting each other and we ALL disrespect Black WOMEN? This FREAK then says Black women are flocking to White men and white men treat women better?
You have to be the dumbest retard that I have ever heard! White boys are the KINGS of disrespect. WHITE MEN ARE THE WORST ANIMALS ON THE PLANET WHEN IT COMES TO DISRESPECTING WOMEN..
ITS IN YOUR MOVIES,YOUR NEWS,SONGS AND IN YOUR VERY EXISTENCE…Yeah some white boys will marry a WOMAN and then HERE IT COMES…THE CONSTANT ADULTERY….THE PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL ABUSE…..AND THEN YOU MURDER YOUR WIVES,CHILDREN AND SIT IN FRONT OF A CAMERA AND SOB …KNOWING THAT POOR PEGGY ANN AND LITTLE BECKY ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF A LAKE SOMEWHERE!!!!
HOW DOES A WHITE BOY erase the CENTURIES OF RAPE AND MURDER that was committed BY WHITE ANIMALS…FROM AMERIKKKA TO AFRICA? White savages RAPED AFRICAN ,WOMEN ,girls and they would rape MEN and boys ! They raped the NATIVE RED MAN AND WOMAN also!
CRIME AND HATRED IS IN YOUR BLOOD!!!
At the end of the day…COLT 45 showed his hand……HE SAYS THAT HE LOVES BLACK WOMEN BUT HE HATES THE BLACK WOMANS SON’S ,FATHERS AND GRANDFATHERS………
SISTERS IF A WHITE BOY HATES YOUR BLK SONS AND FATHERS…THEN HE HATES YOU…BECAUSE WE ARE A PART OF YOU!!
BROTHERS if A WHITE GIRL HATES YOUR DAUGHTERS AND MOTHERS THEN HE HATES YOU…BECAUSE BLK WOMEN ARE A PART OF US!
I ALSO ASK EVERYONE TO USE COMMON SENSE…THIS DEMON SAYS HE HAS NEVER DISRESPECTED WOMEN EVER AND THAT HE ADMIRES BLK WOMEN….THEN MR. PERFECT…WHY ARE YOU NOT MARRIED TO A BLACK WOMAN OR ANY WOMAN AT ALL…….
I SMELL A RAT AND A LIAR!!!!!!!! THANKS FOR BRINGING YOUR OWN ROPE AND CHAIR TO HANG YOURSELF WITH….
NOW LET ME GET BACK TO GETTING MY TAXES TOGETHER….FOR THE COMPANY THAT ME AND MY WIFE OWN…..OOPS THERE GOES YOUR UNEMPLOYED, UNMARRIED STEREOTYPE THAT YOU THREW OUT THERE AND WE ALSO HAVE 5 BEAUTIFUL BLACK SONS THAT ARE NOT IN JAIL OR SHOOTING ANYONE…….DAMN YOU WERE 2 EASY TO DEFEAT!!! NEXT!!!!!!!!!
@ Parker
There are alot of mature women period. But thanks for including our white sisters as it is not my intent to leave them out, they are part fo the sisterhood as well!
Thank you for your comments and I understand where you are coming from but if Ifama has pause, then given her work with Ms. Griffin, I am concerned. She stood for her when no one else did and took on debates and gave of her time when it was tiresome and the rhetoric against Ieshuh was despicable.
I think Ifama (who can defend herself) was just trying to honestly answer the question as she always does keep it real. She did show that there is love and support for Ms. Griffin, but that those people may not be the more recognizable people I listed in my article. Those people, especially those women, deserve mad respect. It was not my intention to have her or anyone feel less than respected for their service. My focus is really on those who do have recognizable names, big pockets, can move mountains when asked, and can make headlines to help if they so chose.
For example, not so long ago Republicans did not support Scott Walker in his first try for governor and ran him out of the campaign. This time around they anointed him and came together as a united front. You could not tell these people did not really like each other and had inner squabbles.
I wish we had this type of unity for our community when we have young people who could be mentored and supported by our own. Why do we have to be silent and invisible? This question will again arise when Willie Hines runs for mayor as we look to our black leadership who has been bought and paid for by the Democratic Party. Will they shill for Barrett as they have in the past, or support Hines which they should because he is one of us and he is the better candidate regardless of color.
WW, I wasn’t gonna comment again on this post, but saw your response and had to. I am doing so to simply thank you. I see that you understood what I was trying to convey and it was not malicious in any way. I don’t throw rocks at people. I am not an ego driven person, I love Black people, but I don’t hold back in critiquing them either. I am very direct and honest about my feelings and what I think about all things and I realize that most aren’t accustomed to individuals who are like that. Again thank you Sis, I appreciate your work, your words and all you do. I am not perfect and I do have my prejudices, as reflected in my end statement to the reference to white women, I am hoping to learn to be as open minded and receptive to all as you are……..but not yet, LOL Black Power!!
This time the Reveloution will be televised and facebooked, and tweeted and on CNN, CBS, NBC, and maybe BET(?). The DRUM will keep the beat and the New NAACP will put us back in a rhythm moving forward. We should give ourselves a purpose to never again step back even if it requires a boycott, sit-in , disorderly demonstration or, by means. If that don’t workt, it will just have to be the New Panther Party (aka Black Tea Party) but, hopefully with old an school discipline and focus. Historically, Black women collectively have always been the straws that have broken the camels back when strength of community was required. Now it is required more than ever for lot’s of reasons. Strength and power are in the numbers. Being disconnected over slights and petty disregards drains our strength and zaps our collective power making it unnecessarily difficult to continually re-establish the disconnect. (It’s like having to start your car everytime using jumper cables.) We have always gotten and should get our strength and power from supporting each other for the good of greater causes. If we don’t use this Black History month, which is upon us, to light some kind of fire we should probably just blow the candle out and forget about the Revolution being televised. HOTEP
Couldn’t have said it better! Thank you for the reply and the words of wisdom. Black women have been doing it for some time. We need to include oru kings and we need to stand side by side and fight. As Ifama reminds us, some of us never stopped, but there are way too many who ahve never started or false-flag!!
Peace,
WW
Yes and that was my point from the beginning. There are those us who are doing things and no one KNOWS exactly what we are doing. We just do what we gotta do. I know many, many women have have supported and helped BEHIND THE SCENES. And I knew that WW did not know that. in total. But I am not ashamed to declare that I have assisted Ms. Griffin and to declare that many BLACK women have helped her, it has nothing to do with ego,
What exactly was your assistance? You said many Black women helped, it’s not many Black women dissing this solider girl, it’s you. You went to court for her sister, and you’d like a pat on the back for that. If you were going to complain about going to court to see the lynching of her sister, why did you even go? Did you try to find her sister’s baby? Are you still looking? Do you even give a damn? I would think it’s an on going family travesty for Ieshuh and her family, I doubt you’re losing any sleep.
You don’t know and I don’t have to state what I have done that went BEYOND a court room, there is evidence. I know what I have done, THERE ARE THOSE WHO DO KNOW. No need to prove anything to anyone, IT’S ON RECORD, okay? I gonna say this again, I don’t need pats or claps, I explained why I stated what I stated..
I said I was gonna stop reading these posts but damn, it hard not to challenge these allegations as false with NO foundation whatsoeva, And it;’t hard NOT to try to set the record straight. But that is a futile effort here. Oh well. I think WW said it best for me.. Ya’ll looking for a brawl, but it ain’t gonna happen, okay? Your instigators plain and simple and I SEE you. I meant what I said and I have a right to say what I wish about how I feel. Oh, for the record, I don’t visit ANYONE in jail, that is just a rule I have that I have broken only ONCE since I’ve instituted it. So please don’t go there, TIME “IS” MONEY.
It is futile. You’re the only woman complaining about what you say is your time being wasted like money. You began the sticks and stones trying to break Ms. Ieshuh’s bones, now don’t get offended if these words of support to her hurt you. Has your mission been accomplished? WW your article has been hijacked. Is this what you call a ‘Black thang”‘? I’d love to hear what Ms. Ieshuh has to say about this. She’s probably a bigger person than this pure gossip. I hope she has some White friends, because friends like you….
I think my article has been hi-jacked. :)
We should get back to the issue at hand. There are people who need to be called out who have political power and ties. People who could mentor and support who had the same uphill climb as Ms. Griffin. Now these people are getting a pass because some of us are missing some of the mesage and how we need to accept our diferences and come together.
While we are worrying about Ifama’s response, we should be condenming those in positions to help and who have ignored us. Those who keep power and use it for their own agendas.
Instead of focusing on one person, I am concerned about this entire “sorority of sisters” in political positions that are not giving back. I am focused on the sisters in leadership positions who run organizations and mentor and crown the next group of leaders. They are not opening up and letting Ieshuh and others into the mix. These are people we need to be concerned about especially those of us raising the next generation of queens and kings. Are these people going to try and keep power until a family member takes the task or are we going to start to cultivate leaders and armies to move the entire community?
Ieshuh represents one of many who are looking to lead our community now. We have Caviler Johnson and a few others who are running this coming Feb. 15th and are we there for them?
Peace,
WW
I do know “WE” are there for them but what about our leaders and those in positions to help them get out and network and learn the system so they can conquer it?
WW , Let me put this on record: I did not hijack your article. I merely responded to it because of your title. Which asked where was the love from Black Sisters in Government AND the Community. As a Sister in the community who has shown love and still has it, I felt it necessary to point out why it appears as though it is not, from a PERSONAL view. Those were my FEELINGS, I SHARED, not dislike or hatred for Ieshuh and I hope she knows that. I have ALWAYS been a phone call away. Had it not included “Black Sisters in the Community” I would not have responded at all.
HOWEVER, I will not ALLOW anyone to slander me and not defend my integrity or sincerity in anything I am involved in. No, I will not back down on that. Where were all these people throwing stones, when Ieshuh cried on Youtube begging them to be involved and help April? When she SHOWED evidence of corruption via Youtube? When she, I and Sister Abena from Philadelphia sat on the court house bench, made flyers and pluggers to bring attention to the issue? Where were they? When she asked for their support then, where were they? When people traveled all the way from as far as New York to support her and April, where were they? They weren’t there when we stepped to an elected official asking for assistance, were they? HELL NAW. And I will not allow none of these Johnny come latelys to use me as the whipping woman for their lack of consciousness, because I KNOW who was there, not ONE of them. They sit in front of computer screens and hide behind avatars throwing jabs and think I ain’t go come out swinging, they got another think coming, feel me? They are filled with hypocrisy and are shit starters for sure. And I will EXPOSE that hypocrisy with FACTS from the moment I became INVOLVED, as it is documented, you can bet on it.
Oh I have so much more to say but not on this forum as I have my own to call out these Black hypocrites in the City of Milwaukee who do nothing more than throw stones from a computer screen using avatars as a representation of themselves.
This is being read by many and as I stated earlier my sincerity and integrity is on the line here and I take this very serious, as it is MY name that is being sullied and dragged through the mud. I really don’t care who else doesn’t. I’m just getting started.
No offense taken Queen Ifama, and I mean no disreespect at all. I do know that you and others have had her back and her sister’s back while others of us supported in other ways that we could. All of which is commendable. Not everyone can be at a court hearing, but we all certainly can do our part and each part is just as important as the other, from the Drum introuding us to the sotry to those who donated time, talent, and treasure. What we all did counts for a lot and thus our voice was united in that effort, despite the outcome.
I guess my point is that there is a certain elite out there that seems to hold on to this power they think they have and do not seem to share it or even give back in the ways that people open doors and kicked down walls for them to be where they are. It is important that people who were given “big names” use this entitlement as other cultures do to enhance their people and their movement. We seem to not do that. We need to get that power and prestige back from them.
Of course you have people like yourself and other strong sisters, true queens who dutifully serve their people without thanks and praise. They don’t need it because they know and they are confident and sleep well at night, when time allows, and are free from guilt. And for that I apologize, you are to be uplifted and never forgotten for your work. My issue is that there are women who do not give back, that take a lot from us and do not use their power for good. These women infuriate me and cause me to wonder what are we doing wrong. These are the women in our schools addressing our girls, getting financial backing for programs that do not work but employee their families, keep us downtrodden, clicking around town in their good shoes while a real woman’s work is done by the private citizens like us but they swoop in and soak up all the glory.
For instance any time the teen pregnancy rate goes down or youth violence is low, we have “leaders” who run right in and take the credit, stepping over the backs of those who really made the effort. Why are they not willing to at least recognize Ms. Griffin and those women who want to be part of the process? Is there no room at the table? Why can’t we all be uplifted and loved and stick together. Where is their hand to help each one reach one? Those are the people who need to be called out, but you are right we also need to recognize those that do.
Again my apologies because by leaving people out, I did one of their numbers. My intention was to call for some unification from the weaker links.
As a teacher for over a decade I do know very well how thankless good, honest work can be. It is not until after you can look back and hold your head and He says “well done good and faithful servant,” can we begin to really appreciate the seeds we sowed and watch them blossom. But there are rare times we do get to, and to me, that is thanks enough. When I see a former student, or someone I helped, I am happy and feel a sense of gratefulness for the ability to help as I was helped by so many strong sisters.
Peace,
WW
I would think she would have alot to say about Queen Ifama`s comments if asked. There is always two sides then the truth. Queen Ifama seems like a defector. If you are one of the women Black women who have a problem with Ieshuh Griffin, tell it to Ieshuh too not just when you feel the right time to throw stones at her.
No disrespect but has Ieshuh`s sister got her baby back? No. People support Ieshuh Griffin`s sister when they feel like supporting her. Last I checked they are very much a part of this community. Queen Ifama I`ve seen you comment on everything under the sun on this site and it sounds like you were just waiting for a time a perfect time to
try to knock this sister.
This is to everyone: WW I sincerely apologize if I offended you with the statement about the court but I was making a point. I realize that people do what they can do and I have read your comments and posts in the past and know that you have supported Ms. Griffin in all her efforts. And Sis I can tell you that the other women you speak of will not tell you publicly WHY they don’t offer their support but of course there is the rumor mill as to why they don’t/won’t. However, that is their business and those of us who will, do just that as you said without fanfare, without spotlight, without looking for something in return.
However, let me put this on record: I am not an enemy, especiall of Black people and in PARTICULAR of Black women and I am not throwing stones, I don’t do that, these accusations are not true. However, I could flip it and say that what you are saying is to throw stones at me and you were just waiting for a opportunity as well, but I will not assume your intent as you have assumed mine. I don’t have a “problem” with Ms. Griffin as I know what to do with “problems” I merely stated how “I” felt and was honest about it.
But you will believe what you wish. I know my intent in every word I have uttered and trust me, it is not to KNOCK anyone. I think as far as April is concerned no one I know, who was INVOLVED KNOWS what is happening with her now. I have inquired through another INVOLVED BLACK WOMAN, if she heard anything, knew anything as she had worked closely with the family on April’s behalf and was in court with me on MANY occassions, she has not heard anything either, so it’s not as though people aren’t still concerned but the squeaky wheel gets the oil and that is how we became involved in the first place, we heard the ‘squeak”, now we hear nothing and having other priorities in our lives, we move on, still keeping an ear open. As far as “People support Ieshuh Griffin`s sister when they feel like supporting her”, I think when one knows what support is needed, one is more inclined to act. Right now, we don’t know what is needed or what to do. Only the people involved can tell us that.
This is my last comment on this subject as I have said all I am going to say. If it’s not understood, as I think my position is pretty clear, there is nothing I can do about that and continuation would be like beating a dead horse. Hotep
Damn man, ______ always try to block. This called where the LOVE for the sister. Ieshuh not asking the question. Wonder Woman is. She might be distancing herself for a good reason from Queen Ifama.
Thanks Unit 47 for your repsonse.
However if Ifama raises these points she does not tend to do so lightly. I do know she keeps it real whether I agree with her or not.
So maybe she is simply answering the question from her own perspective and knowledge. Why? Why support is absent, limited or waivering. These are things we have to consider. Best to know everything upfront, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Only then can we start to fix the problems.
Some have also shared their concerns about taking on multiple challenges and tasks, also good points to consider and repsect as observations.
You may also have a point as well. All are interesting considerations.
Thanks
WW
Whatever. Griffin’s either stupid or crazy. LOL! not the white man’s bitch SMH….
I know why she isn’t getting any love from her black sisters or black brothers. Her crackpot slogan from the last election she ran in.
Griffin needs to sit down and stop making a fool of herself and Milwaukee’s black community.
MilwNews here is news for you, I’m not the white man’s bitch either, as far as I am concerned, she spoke for many of us who may not have the heart to say it, or are in a compromising situation that we can’t afford to utter the words, its not her words that you have a problem with, its here level of clear courage to fight you, and those like you.
Who said she’s not getting any love? Are you serious, she’s plenty loved? Queen Ifama comment is nothing short of a old age attention seeker. I bet she’s in a glass house while she’s trying to throw stones. Ieshuh Griffin hasn’t missed a beat, regardless of the constant attacks. It’s the people who keep putting her on the ballot that love her. She received the highest votes in the Shepherd Express for the county exec race. The woman clearly isn’t letting anyone’s personal comment stop her, she’s like a hyper kid, she won’t sit still, nor should she. Go Ieshuh!
@ Gaga of course she is getting love, but why are our “elite” sisters silent and not allowing more of us to enter? That is what I would like to know? Are they feeling threatened or feel like someone is stepping on toes? Whether I agree with Ms. Griffin or not there should be room for her and those who are in positions of power should be making way for more of us.
But as we give love I don’t want to blindly push her into a position she may or may not be qualified for. I do expect that we develop our young people to take over, but it helps if those who been there and done that can mentor and support.
Thanks for your comments,
WW
I am going to speak with Ieshuh`s sister Valerie. I and Val are good friends , I know Val speaks highly of Ieshuh. I know Ieshuh is extremely close to her family and a no nonsense type of young lady. She`s very bright and intelligent. I don`t know this queen Ifama but she sounds very suspect. I`ll talk with Val today. Beyond that, I think more women support Ieshuh then one is led to believe.
I think it would be good if she could give an update as we all would like to know what is going on. It is upsetting to know people who cared and gave support and time are out of the loop. Possibly this is an oversight but still needs to be rectified!
Thanks,
WW
So I`m told that Ieshuh is out in the cold protesting today. Val said Ieshuh didn`t ask anyone to go with her, she chose to go along. She also said and I quote “Ifama sick” when I explained that she felt `used`. It is my understanding that this woman never once visted their sister in jail, nor did they ask for any money nor did she give any. From my understanding this woman was a repeat back stabber and Val stated this woman can not ever smear Ieshuh because Ieshuh is a good woman and a great sister but a pit bull when neccessary. Val asked me for the link to these comments and said she would speak with Ieshuh before she makes any comments, if she does then I believe she will do so, not sure. Before I end this Val also told me something very heart wrenching, she said Ieshuh had been subjected to all sorts of hell by several persons who claimed to have had a interest in helping her sister, and tried to deal with it all on her own. I have nothing but respect for Ieshuh Griffin and to me she is God sent.
Thanks for getting to the bottom of this.
Peace,
WW
Also to be clear I know there is support for Ieshuh but there should be more support for her and all young people trying to lead and serve their community.
I am especially upset that more people with positions of power are not coming to her defense but quicky support their party and their own agendas. This is not a good message to send to anyone trying to create change. We need all hands on deck whether we agree with the candidate or not. We should be glad to see young people out here trying to embrace the future of Miilwaukee and our movement.
Thanks,
WW
Hallelujah to that sister.
Hey, here is a comment I found in the archives by none other than the Queen Defamer herself under the topic of ‘misinformation, look what Queen Defamer said then, contrary to what she says now, (not trying to keep the controversy going, but I had to post this ;)
I hear you Stephanie, I wonder if any of the “anti-Ieeshuh statement” are in the district. I saw her interview and that eye contact spoke volumes to me as well. She says she is prepared for debate and I can’t wait (well I will actually have to, lol). But I am sure she can articulate the issues as never been heard of before. I am gonna say this because I KNOW Ieeshuh, she doesn’t even swear, this statement is as close to using what is considered a swear word, I have NEVER heard out of her mouth one cuss word, even when she was upset about what they were doing to her sister, she NEVER swore, nor have I heard her raise her voice. I have though witnessed her passion and her frustration with the system. This was the catalyst for her deciding to run, to change things. Her family was let down by those who represented them. I think she will show all of us what true representation truly is.
I believe (and I don’t believe much) that if elected, her constituency will know what is going on in State, I believe she will communicate with them often and I KNOW she has NO fear. She is not afraid to hit the pavement and do the work. AND she is not afraid to stand up to those who are considered “powerful”. She actually has nothing to lose. She researches the law like a lawyer and has repeatedly challenged the power structure and jurisdiction particularly in the case of her sister and now with this. She has been ignored because she is 1. poor 2. Black 3. a woman. I will do my best to support her in anyway I can as she will be a fresh voice in government.
This is trivial as all get up. Let it go. She does not like Ieshuh Griffin, yippy, okay, let it go. Can you please direct this back to the TOPIC WW? This is beyond ridiculous. News flash this was not posted about the personal opinions of Queen Ifama. Get back to the question, somebody please!
I am certainly trying to. Thanks for the assist though! :)
WW
Pettiness garners neither strength nor power. It breeds a toxic and unnatural stress that creates self hatred and self contempt. We are ALL the “white man’s bitch” when we spend such an inordinate amount of time and energy dogging each other out and wasting time focused on petty illusions. The white man has pimped us into thinking that we are each others worst enimies. (Remember, Willie Lynch was a pimp.) I was told long ago that as long as we have white people on the planet, we will never be our own worst enemy. Even though we put a lot of effort in being a close second, we can never be our own worst enemy. (Note: This does not include every white person.) I read the Journal/Sentinel on line everyday and I know who our enimies are and what the white man in this city thinks of us. In general he (they), without reservation, certainly believe that we are their bitch’s or even worse. They relish in our public back stabbing and lack of loyalty to each other. We have to realize that we are at war for the survival of our culture. (The sum total of all of our historical, trials tribulations, struggles and triumphs that have been shared as a related black collective, and, which was betrothed to us to protect and promote by those who struggled and gave their lives to preserve it.) We are failing our past and betraying our future by focusing on the petty. We don’t need to be friends we just need to be supportive of each other for the survival of our culture as a viable collective of people with certain unalianble rights and responsibilities. I’d rather go to war with an enemy who respects me than put my trust in a friend who don’t. We need to collectively stop acting like the white man’s bitch and focus on who our enimies really are. We don’t necessarily have to be friends but, if I am perceived to be you enemy, stop acting like the” white mans bitch” and, get over it.
So…
Now fast-forward to January 2011, Milwaukee Wisconsin, the Milwaukee County Executive’s Race and one stands alone. Bad enough it is only one female, but this sister really is standing alone except for those from within the community who have come to respect her and her message.
Suggested endorsements could come from Sen. Lena Taylor, Sen. Tamara Grigsby, Rep. Gwen Moore, County Board member Nikaya Harris, self-proclaimed community advocate Jerri Hamilton, Rep. Barbra Toles, and Rep. Elizabeth Coggs. Well Coggs gets a pass right? NO- in order for us to get ahead we have to get over our hurt feelings and shake hands and support.
I know Ms. Griffin does not seek these ladies support. She gets by on her brilliance and truth just fine! However, there is a larger message here, one being sent to all women who dare change the face of injustices and politics in Wisconsin no matter their ideology, or those who wish to be leaders in their respective fields. When do women, especially women of color, start getting away from politics and hate and start opening doors for the rest of us?
Shouldn’t they be held to a certain level of accountability from the communities they come from and represent? And if they don’t support other black women what repercussions does this have in our community? When do we start letting our black elected know they are hurting us and not helping us? Regardless if you support Ieshuh, there are other women out here seeking leadership positions, political offices, and judgeships, we need to support our sisters. Hell this isn’t the Housewives of Milwaukee or Bucks Wives, where it is okay to tear down weaves and run in little high-school-like cliques. This is a time where Milwaukee is OPEN FOR BUSINESS!! A new day and that means it is time for our sisters to give up a little piece of their power and share it with the rest of us. Break the glass ceiling!
I heard about this uproar ” thought the grapevine”. As a PROFESSIONAL Black woman I can say this; I met Ms. Griffin when she was out collecting signatures for the current races. She was by herself then, but she did not look nor seem sad, she was very energetic. I was impressed at her level of knowledge. At first glance she’s a cute young lady, some what hoodish, but very respectful, even as I expressed my dislike of her slogan. She didn’t just collect my signature and leave, she actually held a conversation for a while. I had to actually end the conversation, she was ready to go on and on. I enjoyed the conversation, but I had priorities to attend to. I’m not sure of the situation relating to Queen Ifama, but as a Black woman I do support Ieshuh Griffin.
Thanks Ms Johnson for giving us your experience to consider. I am certainly glad peoeple are hearing her message and supporting her. I want to see more youth get up and speak out. If they have to endure all she has I wonder will they after seeing her go thru hell and back?
Peace,
WW
As the baby sister of The Drum, I am highly disappointed in all the shade being thrown. You guys are supposed to be setting an example. Do you think Rosa Parks personally thanked every single one of her supporters? Do you think Dr King personally thanked and called and gave shout outs to all of his supporters? They fought for ALL of us. That was THANKS enough. We have to think of the greater good of all of our people instead of nitpicking through the ones that are making an honest attempt or trying to steal their moment or look for a hollywood star or Grammy award for your time.
Love you all
This is the purpose of TMD. We are all citizens of Milwaukee County and the Universe, we are all intelligent, we have different ideas. Everyone has been civil with their comments. There is no problem here. This is good. No need for anyone to apologize, no one has all the answers. These are not personal attacks just differing opinions.The question for Black Milwaukee is, who are we supporting for County Executive? Carry on Drum Majors!!!!
WW, if someone disagrees with Sen. Lena Taylor, Sen. Tamara Grigsby, Rep. Gwen Moore, County Board member Nikaya Harris, Jerri Hamilton, Rep. Barbra Toles, and Rep. Elizabeth Coggs then why would their endorsements be desirable?
United front.
A lot of people disagree on a lot of things but the difference with us is we never get anywhere because we let feelings get in the way of forward progress.
They do not have to agree to support but we all should help make a way when we can. Someone made a way for them, they should return the favor.
I like her but I do not agree with everything she says. None the less I support her trying to do something instead of bending down and taking it as we have done as a comunity for far too long.
Again I may be wrong, but there are few things we can do alone. A revolution should involve everyone for maximum effect.
Peace,
WW
WW’s right. Unite, don’t fight. I think that is what Ms. Griffin has been doing basically alone, fighting. Unite with her. I’d like to stand in solidarity with her, but often everything is such a Black and White issue, because I’m not Black I often feel I may be looked at as if I don’t belong. I’m very fond of Ms. Griffin, I really am, but I feel I can only be a support to her in the background. As much as I’d like to be in the fore front, I’m left to wonder if the bickering is so internal, what will it be like for the external factor such as myself? Clearly she has no problem embracing others as she obviously received signatures from all over Milwaukee County. Reading these comments, I’m scratching my head about others and their hang ups. It’s these people that seem to be setbacks. I wish Ms. Griffin well and hope she continues to move forward. I just can’t see myself aligned with so much chaos. How does she do it?
Agreed we need to help not hinder and ALL should be welcome to support. MLK did not give his life to have us stay in our corners. Fr. Groppi and others showed us how we can stand together black and white united in love and solidarity.
PLEASE don’t believe Fr. Groppi was a saint, he was sleeping with so many black women on the side, down low, these women are out here and visible. PLEASE do a piece on that and encourage them to speak up and tell their story. How do I know? The same way many others know. Somebody needs to tell it. He was a urban nightmare to these women.
I really don’t think it fair to make acusations of a dead man who cannot defend himself. Same accusations were made of King. I simply don’t endulge unless I see concrete proof. Personal policy.
Exactly how would one go about getting proof or find these women? I was with this man for long periods of time, never once did I see any of this.
I’m just saying…
Well I guess I am old fashioned or something, I could never see myself supporting anyone who I had fundamental philosophical differences with no matter shade or stripe they were. This is a form of relativism and is the heart of what is wrong with society today.
The support for their trying to make change, not of their ideas. We DO need to encourage new leadership and new faces in the political world and especially our youth. We may not always agree but we need to encourage youth to try and find a voice in this community. We also need to show them how to make it and stay strong to stand in the storm. If we turn our backs on them they will loose their way or be discouraged. That is the support I am thinking of. Also we need to encourage mentorship so each one can reach one/teach one. Not to be like them but to show them how they made it over.
Peace,
WW
I think we are different wave lengths on this one so I’m just going to leave it at that.
Peace to you too!
And thus the beauty of America, we can agree to disagree.
Peace to you as well!
Also at this point in America whether we agree with our elected or not, can we afford to see them fail? We have to find a way to work together at some point. We have gotten away from compromise and human compassion. Replacing them with hatred and anger. We are getting no where fast. Not to mention setting a horrible example for our youth. I say that knowing I can be that way at times myself. Working on it!
Yes, especially on an issue like abortion and no we don’t if it is immoral (other issues too). There can be no compromise on abortion for Catholics, that is the compassionate thing to do for our deceived brothers and sisters (their salvation is at stake) not to mention the innocent who have been denied any compassion.
Being convicted in ones beliefs doesn’t have anything to do necessarily with hatred or anger, Jesus displayed anger at the Temple when he found it desecrated, sometimes it is justified.
If our youth are pursuing the wrong things in life do we tell them its ok we may not agree with them but we still support and encourage them? Again I don’t know where she stands on a variety of issue important to me but if they were significantly divergent to mine on the important ones then I would not support her or anyone else regardless of their age, color, gender or ethnic group.
No I am talking about supporting them in positive efforts. As a mother to 2 teens I expect the village to get on them if they get out of line or are doing something wrong. Positive movement needs positive reinforcement. But my experience with youth leads me to believe they seek our guidance and encouragement and they need a swift kick in the pants when out of line.
Abortion agreed! They have no voice, we are their voice. Which is why I cannot trust this president who supports infantcide. It is very wrong on so many levels.
littletortillas you’re just speculating. Why are people so silly?
You are correct I don’t know where she stands on a variety of issues vis a vis the politicians in question. All I’m saying is that if she were supported by them, from my point of view, that would disqualify her as someone I would support (I don’t really know where she stands on issues important to me). I’m not into the P.C. unity thing especially if I am diametrically opposed to someone’s political philosophy or differ on non-negotiable issues but hey that’s just me being silly
From a male perspective: This issue is not about male or female, black or white, it’s about the survival and perpetuation of our collective African American culture. In the face of the history of repeated outside attempts to deny, denigrate and destroy our culture and it’s foundations, by other misguided superiority minded cultures, it is incumbent on US to set aside petty individual differences that have no significant value in assuring that our future, as a culturally specific race of people, has an unincumbered opportunity to reache it’s fullest potential. We have to learn to protect our ” Black mistique” even in the face of an all out attempt at cultural annihilation. When we attack our own it enboldens others to feel jusified in attacking us. We like to put our business in the street to show that we are “not like the other ones”‘ in hopes of garnering favor or pats on the head from those who oppose our very existance. If they don’t have to guess we might as well confess our hate for self in recognition that our fate is in the hands of those who hate us more. If you don’t like me that’s OK but, don’t let the enemy know. This is a “family” affair. Let us fight amomg ourselves but with the cavaet that “the first one to draw blood is the looser”. A show of solidarity is a show of strength. Even though a lion eats meat, it will not mess with a strong zebra. However, it has easy pickings when it scatters the herd. United we stand, divided we get eaten.
You’re right my brother. By the clear comments that have side tracked the true intent of this post by WW, even in the “family”, there are enemies within the camp.